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February 2001, 12 posts, 248 lines

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art...what the fuck is art? in the main...it's selftherapy for the disillusioned. in terms of buddhism...everyone is an artist. a poor housewife who juggles six pesos a day to feed her eight children is perhaps more an artist than any blonde haired chicago lithographer whose mother hated her. it's ridiculous really...doodling on paper with sable brushes and rainbow ink. van gogh had an illness...he saw MOLECULES on Fire...he couldn't help himself. most of the rest of us simply need to apologize to someone or get over parental issues...and take a job at Wendy's making chili.

liam joshua cohen

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Your argument- as it were- is not well constructed, provocative, or interesting. It is just taking up space. This is the first time the other group has been abused by weird personal diatribes. There are plenty of chat rooms out there -go find 'em.

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lucas just proved his shallowness. anyone who blurts out: is this guy for real betrays an inability to discern and ask questions and probe. lucas proves my point. you can't win over a narcissist.

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and YOU are the definer of proper rhetoric? next, you'll want to tell me what art is.

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ha ha aha .

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Is this guy for real?

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I dunno.

A

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and neither does anyone else. that's the point.

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I'll bite.

Liam you've got every right to use this message board to "discuss" art. If people choose to think your comments are inane and not worth their time then they don't have to respond. I totally think your full of crap.

First off, people who work at Wendy's don't make the chili. The chili is manufactured at a food processing plant, all the employees do is reheat the food.

Now I'm sorry if this "blonde haired chicago lithographer" pissed you off. I know a blonde haired Chicago printmaker. She is very much at ease with her family and is now starting her own. Her work even looks like molecules.

I think it is ironic that we can afford to talk about a woman in a third world (?) country. We are all lucky to be where we are. The real tragedy is this woman who spends most of her time making sure her family survives. I do not think she cares, if we think she is an artist.

Yes, I will agree that people are creative by nature. However, it is up to the individual to cultivate their own talents. According to Buddha, we are all disillusioned with what we consider reality. Until we awaking from our lives we may never know the truth.

Art is what you make it. It can run chills up my back. It can make me angry. It can turn me on. The best thing about art, for me, is it's ability to surprise me. It forces my reality to be changed. Maybe ever so slightly, by allowing me to see things from a different slant. Perhaps getting closer to the "truth" Liam, I think you exist, you are for real.

David Roman

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if that blonde haired lithographer you know is a woman named anne cypcar...give her my love. and thanks for the thorough email. i don't care how people respond to my braindoodling. apparently, it touched a few nerves. i'm glad for that. metz is one of the shallowest online personas i've ever encountered. ARTISTS, in the main, believe they see more clearly than other people when in fact an artist sees in CHARICATURE. but it doesn't matter. i suppose kandinsky and chagall were the only two reasonably balanced and inwardly healthy artists in this century. kahlo was dealing with pain. rivera...with his massive belly and ego. and that goddam fool warhol making zillions drawing WHAT?? campbell soup cans? compare and contrast michaelangelo's sistine chapel with queer's pissing on paint covered canvass. get the picture?

shalom

liam joshua cohen

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It contains a virus.

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I don't think it's destructive and I think you can remove it by searching for the file and removing it from your hard drive and registry.

Todd

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So, Ghoulianni wants to go after the Brooklyn again...cut their funding...obsenity...anti-Christian...

I think he should. If the Brooklyn is as big as they think their britches are, they shouldn't have any problem with other funding.

I can agree that taxpayer money shouldn't fund this bullshit. This blowup also gives lots of ammunition to anti-art types in these arguments. This should be taken in the same frame of mind that, I in no way agree with my tax money going into the over half a BILLION dollars for the Bears to get a new stadium.

The solution is hazy, but the principles are clear. The first amendment is still the first amendment, but this isn't about the freedom of speech.

No one is saying that the work cannot be made or seen. Just that the collective pool of money that taxes are should collectivly agree (somewhat) about its usage.

inspectoradam